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Resohh 03-08-2019 12:34 PM

Limits on multi-logging?
 
Multilogging has some benefits and some negatives on this server from what i can tell. its understandable if people want to have one account skilling and one account bossing, since there is down time in both. my issue is, when people want to do content that is limited by a timer, that only one player can receive the reward of. this includes doing multiple bosses at once on more than one account, or doing the thieving chests. having multiple accounts and doing this is unfair to other players. in reality without this limit, someone could have 12 windows open and just do all the bosses at once. its not against the rules. so im proposing a rule that limits the amount of this type of content to 1 at a time. this way there are other options for players to do if there is someone at one of the bosses they want to do. because as it stands, 3 or 4 players could easily have all of the major content covered that can only be done by 1 player at a time. thoughts?

Goku 03-08-2019 12:44 PM

The vote no, I meant to put yes. you should only be able to have 1 account bossing, if you wanna mutlilog skilling or staking who cares

Nozemi 03-08-2019 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Abyss (Post 882)
The vote no, I meant to put yes. you should only be able to have 1 account bossing, if you wanna mutlilog skilling or staking who cares

Fixed that for you :)

Nozemi 03-08-2019 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Resohh (Post 881)
Multilogging has some benefits and some negatives on this server from what i can tell. its understandable if people want to have one account skilling and one account bossing, since there is down time in both. my issue is, when people want to do content that is limited by a timer, that only one player can receive the reward of. this includes doing multiple bosses at once on more than one account, or doing the thieving chests. having multiple accounts and doing this is unfair to other players. in reality without this limit, someone could have 12 windows open and just do all the bosses at once. its not against the rules. so im proposing a rule that limits the amount of this type of content to 1 at a time. this way there are other options for players to do if there is someone at one of the bosses they want to do. because as it stands, 3 or 4 players could easily have all of the major content covered that can only be done by 1 player at a time. thoughts?

I'm planning on making a character management system. Where you have on forum account housing every character. You'll get a character selection dialogue once logging in.

When we have that in place, we'll know whether or not someone is abusing the multilogging. We'll also be able to write code that detects when someone is doing this.

I've also thought about blocking every known proxy or VPN, so that you have to connect to the server/website with your actual IP.

I agree with your points above. I believe that most people do, as this is a seriously annoying issue. At least if someone could successfully be at all bosses at all times.

Basically (TL;DR):
While multi-logging, you may only kill bosses with one account. While killing bosses, you may not do thieving chests with another account. Or any other rewarding thing where there is one instance and a timer.

Royal 03-08-2019 03:45 PM

Makes no sense honestly, so were saying its better to have someone just sitting there auto clicking the theving chest like this dude does? I say do whatever you want if someone wants to take the time to train up 12 accounts to steal every boss that's their time to do so with. Dumb poll

Nozemi 03-08-2019 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Royal (Post 885)
Makes no sense honestly, so were saying its better to have someone just sitting there auto clicking the theving chest like this dude does? I say do whatever you want if someone wants to take the time to train up 12 accounts to steal every boss that's their time to do so with. Dumb poll

It does make sense, but I guess it's a matter of opinion. :)

Oof 03-08-2019 09:25 PM

Server has a LOT more concerns than multi-logging. If one person leveling two accounts is more efficient than you leveling 1 then they are a better player. I know of at least 3 ways I could multi-log on different IP's and the staff wouldn't know the difference.

Resohh 03-08-2019 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Oof (Post 887)
Server has a LOT more concerns than multi-logging. If one person leveling two accounts is more efficient than you leveling 1 then they are a better player. I know of at least 3 ways I could multi-log on different IP's and the staff wouldn't know the difference.

You obviously dont understand the post. its not about multilogging. its about players doing multiple content that excludes other players from doing it with more than one account.

Oof 03-08-2019 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Resohh (Post 889)
You obviously dont understand the post. its not about multilogging. its about players doing multiple content that excludes other players from doing it with more than one account.

I understand. What i'm telling you is even if staff ban's on multi logging (the only way to tell is via IP address) There are MULTIPLE ways to avoid this and most of us are smart enough to do this.

Resohh 03-08-2019 11:36 PM

read above bro

Oof 03-09-2019 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Resohh (Post 891)
read above bro

you're very dense, this can't be enforced.

Jobbernowl 03-09-2019 04:34 PM

Usually been the two account max with no bossing on both at the same time.

Resohh 03-10-2019 09:27 PM

i see why his name is oof ;)

Nozemi 03-11-2019 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Oof (Post 892)
you're very dense, this can't be enforced.

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Originally Posted by Resohh (Post 899)
i see why his name is oof ;)

No need for insults.

As Oof says though, this is impossible to enforce 100%. However, we can make it a lot more inconvenient for most people. Blocking traffic from known proxies and VPNs isn't really an issue.

Then the problem begins; what about all the proxies and VPNs that aren't known? Well, those will still work and bypass the entire system, and staff will be unable to know.

So the question is; do we want to give unfair advantage to people who can and will bother to go around the rules, or do we just allow multi-logging, so whoever wants can login and play as many accounts as they want to.

However, whatever we do decide, we will try our best to enforce the same rule that has been enforced before; you may only boss on one account at a time. I believe we can also make that include these thieving chests.

Resohh 03-11-2019 11:19 AM

i think you should just make the punishment permanent IP ban so that way if they are caught, the punishment isnt worth the crime

Nozemi 03-11-2019 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Resohh (Post 906)
i think you should just make the punishment permanent IP ban so that way if they are caught, the punishment isnt worth the crime

That wouldn't help much, would it? If you can successfully bypass a limitation, you can for sure bypass an IP ban without any troubles.


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